We are excited to welcome our first guest on the show for this third episode – retired Police Chief for the Durham PD, Steven Chalmers. He talks with our hosts about what it was like to be a black police officer in Durham and getting to work with the first black officers of the police department who laid the groundwork for him and other black officers after him. He also touches on his time as Police Chief and incorporating community policing into the department, as well as what the future of this current civil rights movement looks like, saying it requires not just a reforming of law enforcement, but a transforming of law enforcement. Listen in to hear more!