Q Nellum joins Justin and Stephen to discuss her work as a Black entrepreneur and the process of leading organizations in their goals of becoming more effective in their diversity. She also discusses the difficulties of maintaining focus on social media messaging, what Black Lives Matter means to her, the unique struggles facing Black women, and finding inspiration in the Old Testament and the life of Jesus. Justin and Stephen also talk about colonized experiences of Christianity, individual vs. corporate issues in making change, and family with COVID. More resources at profsinrooms.com To donate to production costs, visit profsinrooms.com. Resources from this episode: • Q Inc • Q on Twitter and Instagram • Q’s Bible Reading Plan • Jemar Tisby’s Color of Compromise • Dee Brown’s Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee • Walter Wink’s The Powers That Be • Intercultural and International Leadership Institute

Regular Theme Music by Josiah Enns. Photo by Preston Goff on Unsplash This episode was recorded on the land of the Wahpekute, Anishinabewaki, and the Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux).