We’re kicking off this talk-over with a frank and uninformative discussion of female oxen beast stable torture. We then move to Dave’s movie tastes over the years. “Like rats in a maze with orgasm paddles”. Secret vampire societies. The phenomenon of all-star cast, mainstream movies no one believes can exist (based only on an understanding of the cast), but do exist and everyone has seen them. Halloween movie covers are scary. And, a romantic overture that we really should have omitted.