Joe Nocera, Bloomberg Opinion columnist and co-author of "Indentured: The Inside Story of the Rebellion Against the NCAA," joins Thirty Love host Carl Bialik from a suite at the US Open to talk about the economics of attending big-time tennis events, the hardest thing to explain to a child who's starting to watch tennis, and why Federer : Nadal :: Jordan : LeBron.

Music by Lee Rosevere.

Nocera on Twitter: https://twitter.com/opinion_joe

Nocera's Bloomberg columns: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/contributors/AB5jPpvf5C4/joe-nocera