I have a soulful conversation with former Actor, Pianist, Animal Rights Advocate, LGBTQ Advocate, Underdog Advocate, Psychotherapist, and friend, Lisa Shapiro. We discuss Lisa possibly being conceived in a swimming pool in Florida, her early life growing up in Brooklyn with a Russian grandmother with Borderline Personality Disorder, being a prodigy on the piano at 5-years-old, taking many walks on the “wild side,” dating a 25-year-old man at 16-years-old, being accepted into CalArts by being “annoyingly persistent,” dating a 34-year-old woman at 20-years-old, alluding to a mysterious means of making money, attending Columbia University, having empathetic eyes, the correlation between the desire to be an actor or psychologist, making Lisa feel safe by sharing my pornographic work experience, Lisa being recruited by the FBI to be a special agent, and much more.

Recording Date: Wednesday, May 12th, 2021

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