I continue my conversation with Author, Activist, Deprofessionalized Intellectual, mentor, and friend, Gustavo Esteva. Gustavo shares his thoughts on removing the fascist within our minds by nurturing loving horizontal relationships within our families/communities and creating valuable means of living well without the need for having exhausting jobs. This is part of a series of discussions. To view previous conversations, please visit the (Blind) Man in Black YouTube channel or listen on Apple Podcasts. Please rate and review. Thank you for viewing/listening!

Recording Date: Saturday, May 15th, 2021

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