In this podcast I was honoured to sit down with mo pral (my brother/mate) Romani elder and leader of the Romani community in Aotearoa, Bob Lovell Kamulo. 

We discussed the origins of the Romani people, how the term \'Gypsy\' is a descriptor specifically for the Romani people (not a lifestyle choice), and that it\'s use by non-Romani people, especially for profit, is offensive. 

Bob also tells some great stories and tales from a Rom perspective. 

Enjoy, it\'s kushti rokker.