For the Academy's fourth Masters with Masters event, Bobby Braun, NASA's Chief Technology Officer, and Steve Altemus, Director of Engineering at Johnson Space Center, sat down with Academy Director Ed Hoffman to share stories and experiences in a 90-minute session that streamed live to all NASA centers on September 13, 2010. Braun talked about what he learned from working on the Mars Pathfinder and the Mars Polar Lander microprobe Deep Space 2. Altemus spoke about the connection between learning from past failures and communications. They also shared their thoughts on innovation within the agency.