In episode 9, host Lee Shaner talks with rapper Bohan Phoenix. Phoenix talks about his Chinese roots, discovering Eminem, and appropriation in hip-hop.

Highlights:

3:45 American misconceptions about Chinese food

09:30 China's competitive schooling

12:30 Coming to America

19:55 Bizarre first meeting with dad

29:06 Discovering Eminem (social cutdown: 29:40-30:39)

34:00 Hip-hop influence and appropriation

45:00 Boom bap, trap, and triplet rhyming

47:00 How music spreads in China without tastemakers

57:00 Credits and headphone discount code