Debbie and Sam sit down to record the last episode of the [B]OLD AGE podcast and reflect on five years of podcasting and what’s next, at least creatively.

Debbie talks to award-winning author and writing teacher Sarah Fay about the parallels between her journey of recovery from serious mental illness and her work supporting and teaching writers on Substack.

Debbie talks to visionary entrepreneur Patty Ivey about what breast cancer is teaching her and how she's using that to change the world.

Debbie speaks to former fashion and social media influencer Lyn Slater about her life and her new memoir: “How to Be Old: Lessons in Living Boldly From the Accidental Icon."

Debbie talks to bestselling author and Washington Post columnist Steven Petrow about his sister Julie's decision to end her life using a legal procedure called Medical Aid in Dying (MAID).

Debbie talks to former CNN political analyst Kirsten Powers about leaving the media circus to live a more easeful and authentic life.

Debbie interviews veteran reporter and bestselling author Dale Russakoff, her Harvard classmate, about her surprising experience at Harvard as a woman from the South, her distinguished career as a journalist, and the importance of family.

Debbie speaks with bestselling author Mary Pipher, 76, about happiness, forgiveness, surrendering, and old age.

Debbie interviews Winifred White Neisser, a classmate from the Harvard/Radcliffe Class of 1974. Winifred looks back on her career as a television executive in the all-male, all-white Hollywood entertainment industry and talks about what comes next.

Becoming fluent in French in their 70s may be an impossible goal but Debbie and her husband Sam keep trying. This is a replay of an atmospheric episode describing their experience in an immersion program in Avignon.