What do you do when the ground shifts beneath your feet, when your career suddenly takes a turn you didn’t see coming?

In this powerful episode of Bold Moves, Confident Choices, host Courtney Turich sits down with Rich Bishop to explore how to navigate unexpected change, find strength in reflection, and build resilience when life doesn’t go as planned.

From late-night drives and pivotal self-talk to embracing the journey over the destination, Rich shares practical steps and hard-won wisdom to help listeners process setbacks, move forward with confidence, and create a future that’s even stronger than before.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Why setbacks are opportunities for reflection and transformation
• The importance of allowing yourself to grieve, but not staying stuck there
• How writing down your thoughts helps release negativity and create clarity
• Surrounding yourself with supportive people who lift you up
• The danger of staying in commiseration vs. shifting to action
• How Rich validated his consulting path by seeking honest feedback
• Why the journey—not the destination, defines true success
• Practical reflection exercises to reframe challenges in real time

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “That is a very bold move. That is a pivotal move for sure.” - Courtney Turich
• “It’s very easy to fall into the trap of commiserating, but that doesn’t move you forward.” - Courtney Turich
• “Enjoy the journey. Don’t focus so much on that destination.” - Courtney Turich
• “Work smarter, not harder, that was a real light bulb moment for me.” - Courtney Turich
• “Go be bold, be confident, and be you.” - Courtney Turich
• “The journey itself is the point, not the destination.” - Rich Bishop
• “Don’t beat yourself up over the feelings you’re feeling. It’s normal.” - Rich Bishop
• “Writing it down gives your brain permission to let go.” - Rich Bishop
• “Too many people get stuck in commiseration, and it’s hard to get out once you’re there.” - Rich Bishop
• “You always eventually end up in a better place after the hard times.” - Rich Bishop

About Rich

Rich Bishop is a seasoned Revenue Operations Consultant with expertise in go-to-market strategy, finance, systems, and operations. With over 20 years of experience, he has optimized sales processes, streamlined operations, and broken down silos to drive growth and profitability across diverse industries.

Founder of Midgame Consulting, Rich combines hands-on expertise with a passion for helping companies and people grow. His strategies have successfully guided organizations like Nestle, Nextech Systems, and Biofourmis to improve lead management and overall performance.

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What happens when burnout pushes someone to their breaking point? 

Melissa Cohen knows that moment all too well, and the bold moves she made afterward transformed her life. In this powerful conversation with Courtney, she shares the messy, honest truth about stepping outside your comfort zone and rebuilding confidence after setbacks. By saying “yes” to change, Melissa opened doors she never imagined possible.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, drained, or unsure of your next move, this episode is an invitation to take your first bold step toward renewal and possibility.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• How burnout can become the catalyst for bold transformation
• The power of stepping outside your comfort zone, even when it feels terrifying
• Why resilience is built in the messy middle, not the easy moments
• Melissa’s story of redefining success after exhaustion
• How confidence is a practice, not a destination
• The role of vulnerability in creating authentic connections
• Why saying “yes” to small opportunities leads to big shifts
• Practical advice for anyone ready to start over with courage

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “We need the twists and turns and drops in life to actually come back to the top.”  - Courtney Turich
• “The boldest moves usually start with the smallest choices.”  - Courtney Turich
• “We thought we had to have this linear path, like we had to climb the corporate ladder. But in reality, when we take a step back, it's far from the truth of what many of us have experienced today. ”  - Courtney Turich
• “Your story is your greatest strength, don’t hide it, own it.”  - Courtney Turich
• “We don't always have to stay doing the same thing that we've always done.” - Melissa Cohen
• “You don't have to know today what you're gonna be doing 10 years from now or even five years from now. Figure out what you wanna do for the next 18 months. ” - Melissa Cohen 
• “We take it for granted sometimes how interesting people really are on the platform.” - Melissa Cohen
• “Three things people can do: One, just start, even without confidence. Two, make it about others, not just yourself. And three, never underestimate the power of a thoughtful comment." - Melissa Cohen
• “If you never fail at something, you never learn from anything. So don't be afraid to take chances.” - Melissa Cohen

About Melissa

Melissa Cohen, known as the Good Witch of LinkedIn, is a bestselling author, branding strategist, and former fashion executive who transformed personal loss into powerful reinvention. After a decade-long career with iconic brands like Ralph Lauren, Melissa lost her dream job during the height of the pandemic, but found her voice on LinkedIn. From a few hundred connections to becoming a LinkedIn Top Voice, she built a thriving business helping others grow their influence, craft authentic personal brands, and show up with confidence. Today, she’s a leading force in redefining how we connect, communicate, and build careers online.

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What if the very things that once made someone feel like an outsider could become their greatest strengths?

In this powerful conversation, Stephen Oommen shares how growing up without belonging to any "tribe" taught him adaptability, empathy, and the ability to step into anyone's world. From facing racism and identity struggles to transforming defensive coping mechanisms into professional superpowers, Stephen’s story is both raw and inspiring.

The episode explores the “Chameleon Effect,” the belief that hurt people heal people, and the three questions every 18-year-old, and every adult, should ask themselves to discover their purpose and monetize their talents.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Stephen’s boldest choice: becoming proud of who he is and fully comfortable in his own skin.
• How growing up between cultures and outside of every “tribe” shaped his empathy and adaptability.
• The Chameleon Effect: shifting from blending in as a defense to using adaptability as a superpower.
• “Hurt people heal people”,  why healing yourself first is key to helping others.
• The three career questions everyone should answer: What are you naturally great at? Do you love it? Can you monetize it?
• Why passion alone isn’t enough, monetization matters.
• How basketball became his sanctuary, kept him grounded, and saved his life.
• Choosing to live the mamba mentality, being the best version of yourself every day.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “Be a chameleon, and that doesn’t mean fake. It means adapt while staying true to yourself.” - Courtney Turich
• “Hurt people can heal people. Which side of the spectrum do you want to be on?” - Courtney Turich
• “Just because you’re passionate about something doesn’t mean the money will flow in, we’re told that, but it’s not always true.” - Courtney Turich
• “We all have to be the best versions of ourselves, because that’s how we connect with others.” - Courtney Turich
• “Be bold, be confident, and be you.” - Courtney Turich
• “The bold choice was becoming proud of who I am and comfortable with me.” - Stephen Oommen
• “Hurt people heal people, because you can’t help others heal until you’ve done the work yourself.” - Stephen Oommen
• “At first, being a chameleon was a defense mechanism. Now, it’s my superpower.” - Stephen Oommen
• “Find what you’re naturally great at, make sure you love it, and figure out how to monetize it.” - Stephen Oommen
• “Basketball was my sanctuary, it kept me grounded and saved my life.” - Stephen Oommen

About Stephen

Stephen brings over 25 years of GTM experience across entrepreneurship, finance, and tech leadership. With success in both B2B and B2C across diverse industries, he offers a rare, well-rounded perspective. As an award-winning seller and sales leader, he embodies The JOLT Effect with a customer-first, empathetic approach, shaped by his time on both sides of the deal. Now CEO of ExecuComm, Stephen helps companies refine GTM strategies to drive revenue. A passionate Go-to-Network advocate, he believes lasting business success is built on real relationships.

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“I took a $15 receptionist job, and ended up the CEO.”

Melissa Glick’s story flips the founder script. In this episode, she shares how one unexpected move sparked a bold journey of business success, personal growth, and life-saving decisions. From scaling a company to taking control of her health, Melissa shows that trusting yourself is the boldest move of all.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, overlooked, or afraid to pivot—this is your reminder: the power to rewrite your story starts with one bold step.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Melissa’s surprising pivot from a high-powered sales career to a $15/hour receptionist role
• The unplanned journey from supporting her brother’s startup to becoming CEO
• How the BRCA gene discovery led to a bold health decision that saved her life
• Why not all bold moves feel bold in the moment—and why that matters
• The power of being an integrator vs. a visionary in business
• Audacity as a mindset: what it means to trust yourself deeply
• Melissa’s holistic approach to business growth through sales and systems
• How to turn social platforms like LinkedIn into scalable sales machines

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “You owned your decisions, embraced them, and took bold, audacious action, that’s power right there.” - Courtney Turich
• “There is so much power in being in the driver’s seat of your own life.” - Courtney Turich
• “We all have bold moves in our story, we just have to sit down and reflect on them.” - Courtney Turich
• “You don’t need a perfect plan, you just need to start taking steps.” - Courtney Turich
• “Everybody has it in them to be audacious. You just have to trust yourself enough to do it.” - Courtney Turich
• “I didn’t even know I was making a bold move until way later.” - Melissa Glick
• “I had the audacity to trust myself when no one else understood my choice.”  - Melissa Glick
• “Bold doesn’t have to be big, sometimes it’s the tiny moves that change everything.”  - Melissa Glick
• “I kept waiting to be picked. Then I realized, I had to pick me.”  - Melissa Glick
• “I don’t think it’s bravery, it’s about making choices that put me in control of my life.”  - Melissa Glick

About Melissa

Melissa Glick is the founder of Peak CEO and a business growth strategist who helps solopreneurs and small business owners scale with smarter systems, not more hustle. She simplifies growth by breaking business systems into four core areas: sales, marketing, finance, and operations. Through tools, templates, and hands-on training, Melissa helps clients remove bottlenecks and grow with clarity. If LinkedIn feels like a black hole, Melissa teaches you how to turn it into a lead-generating machine, without the awkwardness or guesswork. For Melissa, systems aren’t about restriction, they’re about freedom. Freedom to grow, connect, and close with confidence.

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What if the biggest thing holding you back… is the version of yourself you’re pretending to be?

In this episode, Enrique Acosta Gonzalez gets radically real about his journey from a siloed, boxed-in Navy leader to a fully integrated, truth-speaking mentor and coach. From cultural identity struggles to a wake-up call from his own wife, Enrique shares the bold pivots that reshaped his life and leadership.

If you’ve ever felt the pressure to conform or the fear of being too much, this conversation will help you break out of the mold and start owning your power.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• The moment Enrique realized he was living a “dual life” and how he changed it.
• Why siloing different parts of yourself weakens your leadership.
• The wake-up call that came from his wife—and changed everything.
• The power of listening as a leadership superpower.
• How to lead with authenticity in high-pressure environments like the military.
• Why being “you” might be the boldest asset your team needs.
• The hard truth about fitting in vs. standing out.
• Real talk on culture, identity, and playing someone else’s role.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “Once you can step into who you are at your core—even all your little quirks—that’s when people are drawn to you.” - Courtney Turich
• “While we think it feels safe, honestly, it’s suffocating.” - Courtney Turich
• “The best you can do is to be yourself. That’s when your true leadership will come through.” - Courtney Turich
• “People’s words have power. And if you can let them be heard, that is power in itself.” - Courtney Turich
• “We’re all just trying to fit into a mold—but maybe it’s time to smash it instead.” - Courtney Turich
• “You’re either living in truth or you’re living a lie—there’s no in-between.” - Enrique Acosta Gonzalez
• “Stop playing somebody else’s role. Just play yours. Be excellent at it.” - Enrique Acosta Gonzalez
• “When you stop siloing your life, you start enriching other people’s lives.” - Enrique Acosta Gonzalez
• “The world doesn’t need a copy. It needs the one and only you.” - Enrique Acosta Gonzalez
• “You are a treasure. Hug that truth and walk in it.” - Enrique Acosta Gonzalez

About Enrique

Enrique Acosta Gonzalez is a leadership and career developer on a mission to stop bad leadership before it starts. After experiencing the harm caused by unqualified leaders early in his career, he’s committed to helping aspiring and current leaders grow before they do damage—intentionally or not.

A 26-year Navy veteran, Enrique is a bestselling author, award-winning podcaster, and decorated mentor. He brings decades of leadership experience across military and civilian sectors, and he’s known for his no-fluff, real-talk approach to leadership, growth, and impact.

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What if your boldest move starts with walking away from who you used to be?

In this episode, Courtney sits down with Ashley Cox, a powerhouse leadership coach, author, and former corporate HR expert who left behind the title “HR Ashley” to rediscover what truly lights her up. From corporate burnout to founding Sprout HR and growing into a leadership mentor for women entrepreneurs, Ashley’s journey is raw, real, and deeply inspiring.

They talk about career pivots, identity crises, journaling breakthroughs, and the power of self-trust, even when the path ahead feels uncertain. For anyone feeling stuck in a version of themselves that no longer fits, this conversation offers a powerful reminder of what’s possible when you choose to rewrite the rules.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Ashley’s early leadership lessons from retail to corporate boardrooms
• The culture shock of switching from Kroger to J.Crew, and what it taught her
• Why burnout pushed her to walk away from corporate life
• How starting a photography biz accidentally led her back to HR (with a twist!)
• The mindset shifts required to leave behind a known identity
• Why she shut down her consulting biz to go all in on leadership work
• Practical tips for journaling through transition and rediscovering your “why”
• The power of positioning coaches for untangling your inner chaos

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “What could you do every day that lights you up? That has you looking at your calendar saying hell yes?” - Courtney Turich
• “Because it's already scary enough being an entrepreneur. No one’s paying you except the business you build.” - Courtney Turich
• “So many of us think we need a five-year plan, but the beauty is in the chaos.” - Courtney Turich
• “If I wasn’t HR Ashley… who was I? That identity was so wrapped up in my work.” - Ashley Cox
• “Business years are like dog years, every year feels like seven in terms of growth.” - Ashley Cox
• “You can either pay a few hundred now or tens of thousands later when it blows up.” - Ashley Cox
• “You don’t have to have it all figured out. The mystery is part of the fun.” - Ashley Cox
• “It’s okay. It’s safe. It’s necessary… to trust yourself.” - Ashley Cox

About Ashley

With 20 years of experience leading high-performing teams across retail and corporate giants like J.Crew and Kroger, Ashley Cox brings deep expertise in talent development, team building, and leadership strategy. She’s led teams of 1 to 400 and contributed to enterprise-level training programs for a $100B company. Now a business owner of 8+ years, Ashley understands the unique challenges leaders face—especially women forging bold paths. Through her work, she empowers women to step into their leadership potential with confidence and clarity. Ashley is the author of Transform Your Stories and host of The Impact Ripple podcast, where she shares real, relatable leadership advice to help others lead with impact, purpose, and joy.

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What happens when your gut says this isn’t right, but your career says stay?

Nadine Lavigne had climbed the corporate ladder at top global companies… until one bold decision changed everything. In this powerful episode, Nadine and Courtney get real about what it means to lead with authenticity, the cost of staying silent, and why leaving comfort is sometimes the most confident choice.

From leadership masks to gratitude dinners, this conversation will leave you rethinking how you show up… and who you’re doing it for.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Why Nadine walked away from a high-level corporate role with nothing lined up
• The internal battle between “fitting in” and being true to yourself
• How a gut feeling and a friend’s observation changed her path
• The power of vulnerability in building safe team spaces
• Why listening—really listening—is the secret to connection
• Nadine’s work helping teams ditch the mask and lead with purpose
• The underestimated impact of practicing daily gratitude
• What she’d tell her 18-year-old self about careers, confidence, and zigzagging your way to success

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “You do not have to be in the box. And if it doesn’t feel right, you owe it to yourself to explore what does.” - Courtney Turich
• “Safe spaces aren’t soft, they’re powerful. That’s where people actually thrive.” - Courtney Turich
• “It’s not about quitting. It’s about realigning with who you are.” - Courtney Turich
• “Being bold doesn’t always mean big. Sometimes it’s just saying, ‘This isn’t for me.” - Courtney Turich
• “I wasn’t being myself—I was playing a role to fit in. That cost me more than I knew.” - Nadine Lavigne
• “The most transformational work I do is helping people take the mask off.” - Nadine Lavigne
• “Gratitude breaks barriers. It’s simple, human, and wildly powerful.” - Nadine Lavigne
• “My career didn’t follow a straight line—and I wouldn’t want it to. The zigzags made me.” - Nadine Lavigne

About Nadine

Nadine Lavigne helps leaders drop the mask and lead with heart. With 20 years in corporate leadership roles at GE, Boeing, and various tech companies like IBM/Kyndryl, she’s seen how disconnected cultures hold teams back—and how authenticity drives real results. Today, she partners with executives and teams to build more human workplaces through leadership programs, coaching, and purposeful team experiences. 

She now helps individuals and teams lead with more authenticity, trust, and purpose. Nadine is passionate about creating spaces where people can get real, and rediscover their true potential - both at work and in life.

Energetic, empathetic, and always real, Nadine is a self-described "Dolphin" and proud ENFP. She brings contagious energy, deep emotional intelligence, and a passion for connection to everything she does. Whether in the boardroom or around a gratitude dinner table, Nadine helps people show up fully—and lead boldly.

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Have you ever realized you weren’t fully you until much later in life? That was me. In this solo episode, I’m sharing the truth behind my motto: “Be bold, be confident, be you.”

I take you behind the scenes—from Shark Tank to scaling a medical device territory from zero to millions—and what it taught me about identity, courage, and showing up authentically. Spoiler: I didn’t always feel bold or confident.

Whether you’re in sales, stuck in self-doubt, or ready for a personal pivot, this episode is your reminder: You can rise by being fully YOU.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Courtney reflects on how her signature motto was born through real-life experience
• Behind-the-scenes insights from her Shark Tank journey and what it didn’t reveal
• The turning point: rebuilding her confidence in a medical device sales role
• How she scaled a zero-dollar territory into a multimillion-dollar success
• The power of posture, presence, and bold questions in the sales process
• Why people buy from people who are confident, authentic, and relatable
• Courtney's “Why Not Theory” and how it fuels her current mission
• A call to embrace vulnerability and own your unique voice

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What happens when you look in the mirror and say “I love you”?

For many of us, it’s uncomfortable, even emotional. But for Robyn Engelson, it’s the foundation of real self-trust. In this episode, Robyn shares the 3 daily practices that changed her life—from mirror mantras to breathwork to brain-dump journaling, and how those simple habits helped her go from near burnout to hosting a top 5% podcast.

Whether you're battling self-doubt or craving a confidence reset, this conversation will remind you of one bold truth: everything you need is already inside you.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• Why mirror work and saying “I love you” out loud builds deeper self-connection
• How to regulate your nervous system using 3-2-1 breathwork
• The power of unfiltered journaling vs. prompt-based writing
• Why Robyn almost quit her podcast—and what stopped her
• How studying top podcasters helped her shift her strategy and grow her audience
• The myth of fear—and how it’s just a story we choose to believe
• How flow, fun, and structure fuel consistency
• Why your circle matters: the impact of aligned community on confidence

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

• “You always had everything you needed inside you—you just had to come out of your shell.” - Robyn Engelson
• “Fear doesn’t exist. It’s just a story we believe is true.”- Robyn Engelson
• “You don’t have to create everything—just be smart enough to duplicate success.”- Robyn Engelson
• “It’s the small daily wins that get us to the bigger goal.” - Robyn Engelson
• “Just imagining saying ‘I love you’ to myself in the mirror gave me chills.” - Courtney Turich
• “Being with yourself can be one of the hardest things to do.” - Courtney Turich

About Robyn

Robyn Engelson is a former consultant who left a six-figure career to prioritize her health after being diagnosed with Hashimoto’s. What began as a personal healing journey soon evolved into a deep passion for helping others feel better, too. She developed a simple yet effective system focused on nutrition, fitness, mindset, and accountability—and eventually turned it into a thriving online business.

Today, she is a mom, a wife, and a wellness coach dedicated to helping everyday people stop merely existing and start truly living. Within just 15 months of launching her side hustle, she reached the top 5% of her company, created her Signature Impact YOU coaching programs, and has since helped hundreds of individuals become healthier, happier, and more empowered.

She believes that with the right mindset and support, anyone can create lasting change—and she’s here to show them how.

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What if fear wasn’t a stop sign, but a signal that I’m standing on the edge of growth?

In this solo episode, I open up about my bold decision to leave my dream home in Charlotte and embrace a new chapter in Asheville. I reflect on my journey through 16 moves in 23 years, the emotional rollercoaster of big decisions, and how adaptability has shaped my life—and my confidence. If you’ve ever felt stuck, scared, or unsure about your next step, this episode is for you.

I want to remind you that you have the power to choose, to change, and to thrive. You’ve done it before—you can do it again.

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

• I share the personal decision behind leaving my favorite home in Charlotte to move to Asheville.
• I reflect on how I’ve moved 16 times in 23 years—and what that reveals about my adaptability.
• I get real about the emotional truth behind change: fear, hesitation, excitement, and courage.
• Being a “chameleon” isn’t about blending in—it’s about growing forward, and that’s what I’ve learned.
• Listening to others’ stories has helped me unlock my own self-awareness—and I hope it does the same for you.
• I talk about the importance of moving from talk to action—enough planning, it’s time to leap.
• Material things matter less to me now that I know how to make any space feel like home.
• The one thing no one can ever take away from you is your power of choice—and that’s a truth I live by.

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