From a chance bonfire meeting in South Africa to becoming a Gemini design duo for the ages, Luci Badenhorst (Praekelt.com, South Africa) and Lee Mavuso (Klarna, Sweden) share with use there working journey. As a designer, Luci shares why working with UX writing and story is essential to the work, and how to bring writers into the team and client projects. As a writer, Lee gives a peak into her shift from copy to UX and how she pivoted her love of words into the agency world. But their advice above any process is how to form connection and common understanding with anyone in the room.