In times of turmoil and uncertainty, we look for role models to show us the way. Rev. Molly Fraser is using Dietrich Bonhoeffer as a guide for her congregation, helping them reflect more deeply on what it means to pick up their cross. It may sound counterintuitive, but sacrifice can be the path to joy. What kind of sacrifices are we being called to make---and what sacrifices are we not prepared to make? Along the way, we talk about changing worship practices, being pastors and moms, and the power of sharing a good story.

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