I had the honor of opening Saturday’s Full Circle episode with a conversation with Dr. Ephraim Williams, Pastor Emeritus of the St. Paul Missionary Baptist Church, a church he’s led since 1971. Dr. Williams has been a blessing not only to St. Paul but the city of Sacramento and around the nation. Under his leadership, the church has grown to over 2,000 members, constructed a new edifice and family life center (both of which are paid in full) and offers more than 65 programs, services and initiatives designed to meet the needs of people. Hear my conversation with Dr. Williams on the eve of his well-deserved retirement celebration of 49 years of faithful service. Listen as the pastor shares parts of his journey, tips on debt, his thoughts on the state of the world today and more.