<p>As the shutdown drags into its fifth week, Whitesides joins me to talk about the GOP using hunger as political leverage, the impact of Trump's attacks on science, and why hope still matters.</p>

As the shutdown drags into its fifth week, Whitesides joins me to talk about the GOP using hunger as political leverage, the impact of Trump's attacks on science, and why hope still matters.

BONUS Ep: Rep. George Whitesides on the Moral Cost of the Shutdown

Political interviews too often sound rehearsed and over-managed. Building the Bench breaks the mold.
Each week, host Matt Staab sits down with the next generation of Democratic leaders for candid conversations about the experiences that shaped them, the mistakes that grounded them, and the ideas they’re eager to test in the years ahead.
It’s a chance to see the people behind the podiums — and imagine the future of American politics with them leading the charge.

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Political interviews too often sound rehearsed and over-managed. Building the Bench breaks the mold. Each week, host Matt Staab sits down with the next generation of Democratic leaders for candid conversations about the experiences that shaped them, the mistakes that grounded them, and the ideas they’re eager to test in the years ahead. It’s a chance to see the people behind the podiums — and imagine the future of American politics with them leading the charge.

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BONUS Ep: Rep. George Whitesides on the Moral Cost of the Shutdown

BONUS Ep: Rep. George Whitesides on the Moral Cost of the Shutdown