Last month, reporter Mary Catherine O'Connor joined us for an episode on the intersection between ski resorts and the mining industry in the West. One of the interviews she did for that story, with Brian McInerney, a hydrologist with the National Weather Service, didn't make it into the final story, but it's one I wanted listeners to hear. In this bonus episode, Brian traces the politicization of climate change, how surprised scientists were to see people accusing them of bias, and what the difference is between climate and weather.