This episode is part of a show swap with the podcast Back From The Abyss. BFTA is a series about psychiatric healing hosted by Dr. Craig Heacock. There are a lot of parallels with Inside Eyes and this episode is an incredible interview with trauma expert Saj Razvi, exploring ketamine therapy, cannabis therapy, as well as a powerful personal story from Saj.

Listen to part two of this episode here.

Find out more about Back From The Abyss: www.bftapodcast.com.

You can listen to Dr. Heacock's interview on Therapy Chat here, or learn more about him here: www.craigheacockmd.com.

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