So here is a bonus episode, a 'fireside chat' which I took part in with my friends DJ, Nathan and Deb from the Calling All Beings podcast/youtube channel. I was also joined by Franc Milburn who is a former Royal Army Paratrooper & Intel Officer w/over 20 yrs exp producing threat assessments for clients in hostile environments. The two Frank(c)s!

Topics included Whistleblowers, Crash Retrievals, Triangular UFOs and the nature of reality, so a pretty wide ranging conversation!

*please note* Apologies, there were a few technical difficulties with Franc M's internet connection, but these were resolved after the first 20 mins or so.

you can find me on twitter @UFOthinker, I'd love to hear your comments and thoughts on the topics discussed

- Frank