In this bonus episode, Andy and Alyssa talk with writer AJ Hard about his book, The Rules of Horror. They talk about writing horror for children, finding new ways to create scares, and how R.L. Stine's Goosebumps inspired Hard to create his Shiver and Fears series. Find AJ Hard on Twitter (@ShiverandFears), Instagram (@ShiverandFears2019), and on his website (shiverandfears.com). // Follow @saypodanddie on Twitter and Instagram, and get in touch at [email protected] 

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