This past week, I had the privilege of speaking at my local church on the theme of maturing in faith. Another wonderful teacher opened the conversation in Hebrews 5, reminding us of the call to grow up spiritually. (If you’d like to hear the full message, head over to bethele3.org.)

Here on the podcast, we’re picking up where I stepped in—with the light topic of willful rebellion. Spiritual maturity is about learning how to stay faithful when we’d rather push back, resist, or walk away. So grab your favorite warm beverage and settle in for this honest conversation: when life presses in, will faith hold?