Because Paige's computer ate some of our raw audio for our normally scheduled episode delaying our release, BBE decided to publish a bonus episode for everyone. Enjoy as Paige's sister Kayla joins BBE to discuss a true crime murder mystery as shown in Janice Hisle's Submerged.

Submerged: The Story of Sarah and Ryan Widmer

• Kayla recommends checking out true crime and conspiracy podcast: Mile Higher
• Also, take a look the Netflix true crime docuseries, Trial by Media, which features episodes focusing on court cases where the media played an especially pivotal role.
• To learn more about Janie Hisle, check out her website.
  • You can also purchase Submerged for yourself on Amazon.

Folio Facts: did you know famous detective novelist Anne Perry was convicted of murder as a teenager? Check out the links below to learn more about her and other authors-turned-criminals.

• 5 Crime Writers Who Were Also Murderers - Vice
• Wiki Page on Anne Perry

Discussion Questions

• Do you think Ryan Widmer is guilty? 
• Do you think it is wrong of the media to get this involved in true crime cases?
• If you were a juror in just one of these cases, without the background info of this book or of the other trials, would your opinion change?

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