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In this reflective bonus episode of The Secrets of Learning and Development, Julia and Valerie turn the mic on themselves to share the unexpected lessons they've learned from creating the podcast.

From realising how people fit learning into their daily lives, to discovering the quiet power of voice and conversation, they explore what has made this journey meaningful — both for them and their listeners.

They talk about:

• Why learning doesn’t need a classroom
• How stories often stick more than strategies
• The surprising intimacy of audio
• Why downloads don’t measure real impact

If you’ve ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes of a podcast — or how learning really happens in the moments between the frameworks — this episode offers a warm and thoughtful look at what matters most.

 Just to let our listeners know — we’ve just won Podcast of the Year at the Women’s Business Awards 2025

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