This podcast originally aired on the EquiRatings Eventing podcast.

"To me... to be successful, and this is any in venture, early on in your career you have to sort out how to  differentiate yourself," - Doug Payne. 

In this bonus podcast episode, USEA Podcast host Nicole Brown caught up with top-level eventer Doug Payne to talk about his legendary partner Vandiver, the Tokyo Olympics, his journey into the top of the sport, and much more.