In this bonus episode of the "With the Shepherd" series, Aminta welcomes guest Debra Geisler.  Together, they dive into scripture and discuss practical ways we can battle spiritually in the dark seasons.  Learn what kind of specific prayers and practices can help to free us and heal us. In addition, learn how to walk beside those who are struggling; what is helpful and what isn't.

Debra has a counseling background,  loves Jesus and her family, and currently resides in California.

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