Wherein Beth and Matt welcome cross-stitch enthusiast, fondant sculptor, and friend of the show, Withering Slights! Also known as Charlotte, she joins to discuss the difference between fandom and obsession, Gillian Anderson's many modes, genre swim trunks, cupcakes, Star Wars, and where Will and Hannibal might go from here.

• Withering Slights' Etsy Shop
• X-Files Speedo Episode
• Withering's entry in #thisismycupcakedesign
• Manhunter (once again) The Great
• Sex Education
• Hannibal Rising
• Mary Berry's chocolate cupcake recipe
• Fondant hardener
• Meat glue