It's a competitive industry, so maybe sometimes the only way to stand out from the crowd is to actually make stuff. Martin's close friend and collaborator Louis Chan (director of Highs, writer of Sticks of Fury and A LOT of other shorts) joins him for a quick chat about maintaining that creative hustle, and how his latest film Patience came to be.

Patience will be out via Omeleto on YouTube from 15th May.

Louis will be back with us soon, but in the meantime find links to all of his films at louischanfilms.com, and of course drop him a follow on Instagram @louischanwing.

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