What was it like to put Charles Mason and Charles "Tex" Watson behind bars? Judge Brandon Birmingham sits down with former Los Angeles County prosecutor Stephen Kay. Kay worked alongside Assistant District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi during the Manson family trial, as well as the trial of Tex, our main focus of the "Tex and Charlie" series. What was it like to sit in that court room? What does Kay find so unbelievable about the Tate-LaBianca murders? And what were the other cases that left an imprint on this long-time prosecutor?

Mr. Kay was also very helpful in the research of "Tex and Charlie." We are very grateful for his knowledge, time, and his willingness to give freely of both.