Here are some extra parts of our conversation with Daniel Brener that we weren’t able to include in the main episode, but are well worth a listen. We chat about Daniel’s second career as a baritone, how his PhD is structured in the way that PhDs used to be done, how “the butterfly effect” has nothing to do with butterflies, why physicists may be reluctant to discuss their work, how scientists and activists alike don’t always know how to communicate complexity, and finally, the metaphysics of quiche.

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