In this bonus to the main episode, we bring you extra sections of our conversation with Daniel Brener, including why he's the black sheep of the family, what PhDs used to be like, the origin of the "butterfly effect", concerns over communicating complexity, and the metaphysics of quiche.  

Daniel is on Twitter @daniel_brener. To find out more about him, make sure to check out his website: https://www2.ph.ed.ac.uk/~s1704203/

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