In this episode, we share a conversation with Dr. Lamis Abdelaaty and Dr. Rebecca Hamlin about refugee status in policy and in discourse, and more broadly about the categories and labels we use to talk about migration. We talked to Lamis and Rebecca last fall on Cornell’s campus after an event where they presented from their new books.

With this episode, we’re rounding out our season on waiting. Thank you for listening as we have reflected on experiences of limbo from the U.S.-Mexico border, to the Underground Railroad, to Palestinian camps, to Tibetan exile here in Ithaca, NY. Limbo and questions of time haunt nearly every conversation about border crossing and asylum. You’ll hear some of that nuance in our conversation today.

Links

• Lamis Abdelaaty
• Rebecca Hamlin
• Refuge, Refusal, Rights: A Conversation with Lamis Abdelaaty and Rebecca Hamlin in fall 2021
• Crossing: How We Label and React to People on the Move by Rebecca Hamlin
• Discrimination and Delegation: Explaining State Responses to Refugees by Lamis Abdelaaty
• Journal of Immigrant & Refugee Studies, Volume 20, Issue 2 (2022) edited with an introduction by Lamis Abdelaaty and Rebecca Hamlin

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