Stacey and Jake are joined by Professor Bill Hsiao.

After listening to "Bonus: U.S. State Health Reform,"  we hope listeners have a better understanding of what healthcare reform looks like at a State level. You'll learn how Vermont established the foundation for its own Single Payer system and how national health reform and "marketing" got in the way. Bill worked with Bernie Sanders on Medicare For All and with Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin on Vermont's single-payer healthcare plan. Bill now is working with Governor Newsom's Healthy California For All Commission. You'll hear a bit about Jake and Stacey's home states.

A summary of "Bonus: U.S. State Health Reform" and additional learnings can be found on our website.

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