Patrick rejoices in the return of the hobbits to the narrative and in the joyful, humor-filled reunion of the Company. He and Andrew discuss the Glittering Caves of Aglarond and how the different reactions of Gimli and Legolas are like their own different reactions to The Lord of the Rings. They reflect on the futility of Isengard’s pretentious flattery of Mordor, which still gives a fearsome anticipation of what Frodo and Sam will face, and on Gandalf’s foibles.

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