The Ukraine war has dragged on for well over 400 days, has cost billions of dollars and many thousands of lives, and continues to threaten global stability. To understand how and why the war began, Talking Policy host Lindsay Morgan talks with Jesse Driscoll about his new book, Ukraine's Unnamed War: Before the Russian Invasion of 2022 (with Dominique Arel). This interview was recorded on April 7, 2023.