Listen in to the inspiring conversation with psychologist/psychoanalyst, Dr. Spyros Orfanos, and award-winning documentary filmmaker, Ellen Goosenberg Kent. Our guests explore the intersections of their work with refugees, asylum seekers, and those enduring family separation. Both take you into the heart of their encounters with this difficult issue. This episode is sure to evoke empathy and desire for action in the face of brutal injustice.

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