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For the benefit of Frankie the Flat Coated Retriever and her fans, we’re not saying that she will always come second behind her older Labrador sister, but we’re not not saying that, either.

The Guardian article we refer to about the Poland-Belarus border is Jon Henley’s “‘People treated like weapons’: more deaths feared at Poland-Belarus border” (2021).

We quote from Susan Kouguell’s interview with Agnieszka Holland (2024) from the Script website.

For more on Polish politicians likening Green Border to Nazi propaganda, see Philip Oltermann’s Guardian piece (2023). 

For an image of Mexico-US border at San Diego/Tijuana, see this CNN article (2021). We’ve talked about this particular site before, in Episode 1.6 on Border Art, when we discussed Javier Tellez’s One Flew over the Void (Bala Perdida) from 2005. You can watch it here.

You can find Georgia Cole’s piece “Shabana Mahmood is wrong: refugee status was never ‘permanent from day one’” on the Conversation website.

The material in this podcast is for informational purposes only. The personal views expressed by the hosts and their guests on the Borders Talk podcast do not constitute an endorsement from associated organisations.

Thanks to the School of Arts, Media and Communication at the University of Leicester for the use of recording equipment, and to the School of Cultures, Languages and Area Studies at the University of Nottingham for financial support.

Music: “Corrupted” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Edited by Steve Woodward at podcastingeditor.com