Ben interviews his brother Adam, also a grad student studying trees.  Adam goes into how he's using cellular structure in oaks to reveal climate history. Along the way they talk grad school realities and other student job related stories.

• why oaks can extend climate reconstructions farther back in time
• sanding protocols, imaging, and AI for cell-level features 
• grad school workloads, TA work, and lab culture 
• work outside of grad school
• sponsor shoutout to Tiger Shark Industrial Abrasives

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