This week we have have part two of our interview with David S. Meyer, professor of sociology at University of California Irvine.  We talk about the polarization of our culture, the American activist experience versus that in other parts of the world like New Zealand, and the dilemma of recognizing victories but always pushing for more.  "You have to take those hard won victories that are so much less than you want.  You have to claim credit for them and you accept your victories gracelessly and demand more  ...  There's a challenge of recognizing that victories have been won and a challenge of recognizing that they're not enough at the same time."