We are excited to welcome Carrie Frauhiger as our first guest on the podcast! We love talking about what we are passionate about here on Both And. However, in this confusing and scary time that has come from COVID-19 we wanted to bring on a guest who can talk about her passion for social work, as well as start a conversation and give advice on how we as a community can support the marginalized and disenfranchised during this pandemic. Coming from a Christian and psychological studies background Rachel and Sarah often discuss topics that land in a grey area. We recognize that these conversations can be intimidating and lined with tension. However, we also recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn. Find us on Instagram (@Bothand_a_conversation) and join the conversation! Check out Carrie's blog at http://somethingbetterinstore.blogspot.com