In Episode #5 of Both Sides, you'll hear APS Founder Allan Katz and Co-chair to APS's Advisory Board, Mike McShane, deliberate about the 2020 Presidential Election and Climate Change. Both Sides, brought to you by American Public Square at Jewell (APS), is a reoccurring civil dialogue about topics related to current events through distinct political perspective. Mike and Allan come from different generations, political parties, and overall ideology on a number of political issues.