Boubacar Boris Diop, a Senegalese intellectual, provides a historical and geopolitical analysis of the ongoing conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) in an interview. He traces the roots of the conflict back to the Berlin Conference and highlights the legacy of the Rwandan genocide, as well as the discrimination against Congolese Rwandophones. Diop acknowledges Rwanda's involvement but argues against simplifying the M23 rebellion as solely a Rwandan proxy. He critiques President Tshisekedi's strategy and suggests the fall of Goma may be a turning point. Diop challenges common perceptions regarding mineral resources and advocates for a nuanced understanding of the complex web of international actors involved in the DRC. Ultimately, he emphasizes the need for strong Congolese leadership to overcome the country's challenges and avoid repeating past mistakes.