Bradley tells Morgan about his story of growing up evangelical, becoming a pastor, and then realizing that wasn't for him when he got away from home in his travels. The two talk about the forming of new ethics when you no longer rely on the Bible to inform those ethics and the writing of Bradley's new book that will come out January 2023. To see more of Bradley's work, go to straightwhiteamericanjesus.com or https://www.skidmore.edu/religious_studies/faculty/onishi.php.