The Host's Message to Brandon:

I just wanted to say a big thank you for being such an awesome part of the podcast series. Each episode brought something unique, but your honesty, expertise, and stories really elevated the whole experience — pun intended.

From technical breakdowns to lightning-round chaos, you brought the perfect mix of knowledge, humor, and humility. I know our listeners are walking away more informed, more inspired, and with a whole new respect for the world of guiding.

Seriously, I appreciate you taking the time to share your insight and be part of this. You made it feel like more than just a podcast — more like a campfire conversation after a long climb.

Hope to cross trails again soon — whether on a mic or a mountain.

- Jason

Episode Description: Ropes, Reps, and Real Talk: What It Really Takes to Be a Mountaineering Guide

In this fourth and final chapter with mountaineering guide Brandon, we’re strapping in for a high-altitude conversation on certification vs. experience, ethical guiding, and what it takes to truly be “mountain ready.” Whether you're a first-timer shopping for a guide or a weekend warrior dreaming of leading climbs, Brandon shares insider wisdom on training, gear, and the real checklist that matters.

We talk about why certification isn’t just a badge, how the guiding industry can improve, and how to separate influencers from professionals. Then, we dive into Brandon’s personal gear must-haves, what training he recommends, and the one thing he wishes more clients would do before stepping on a rope team.

Bonus: A rapid-fire lightning round that'll make any alpine sufferfest look like a day at the beach. Frostbite or altitude sickness? Crevasse jump or cornice collapse? Brandon picks his poison — and yes, we find out his go-to summit snack.

If you've ever asked, “Do I really need a certified guide?” — this episode is your wake-up call.