Anti-hunter turned hunting rights activist Brant Macduff is the author of The Shotgun Conservationist. Host Ryan Garrett sits down with him to discuss it's appeal to non-hunters who care about the environment that hunting might not be the big bad destroyer of the environment that they think it is.

We also talk about how we can better get out of our echo chamber and engage with the broader public.

You can follow him on Instagram: @stuffinmyapartment

and his book can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1643261037?k=shotgun%20conservationist