We sit down with our good friend Sam who happens to also be a wonderful researcher, therapist, and psychologist in the Cincinnati area. 

Sam shares some of the work he has done with a group he started called "Braving Controversy" to gather people together to talk about difficult, complex, and often polarizing topics in society. 

Dive into to this interesting conversation that calls us to keep talking to each other, keep reaching across all kinds of divides to try to understand that "we are all human, and we are all going to make mistakes."

Check out Sam's professional website for more information here: 

https://cincinnaticenterfordbt.com/about/samuel/?fbclid=IwAR1UGhqas2nL9NQoPkUngVdAZgBbri4cJYryXqluO2dvfvaplUvnnEN64dM

And for more on the group "Braving Controversy" check out their blog here:

https://bravingcontroversy.com/?fbclid=IwAR3JyU1GYm6UFSPiibD0l1Wj7yvA9z6jICXQjJQuDmmFWXHY66mvOuWa7x8