As a self-taught programmer since elementary school, Chris Elgee is no stranger to learning by trial and error. Now a challenge developer and penetration tester, he shares advice on how to build a career you're passionate about.

In this episode, Elgee discusses the importance of creating a strong network, both in local communities and throughout the industry, as well as the critical role of education and certifications in developing skills. He also stresses the importance of pursuing your passions in a playful way by building challenges and completing CTFs.