Ian and Gil interview Patrick Leder, publisher/developer/designer behind Leder Games.

Patrick's breakout hit Vast (previously known as Trove) offers unique asymmetrical play that made it stand out. We discuss this success and how to build on momentum.

You can reach out to Patrick on twitter: @ledergames

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