In this episode, we sit down with Narene Stokes Crosby, Sheila Albers, and Susan Berardi to discuss their powerful book Mothers in Arms. This book tells the heartbreaking yet inspiring story of two mothers—one Black, one white—who formed a deep friendship after their sons, Ryan Stokes and John Albers, were killed by police. Despite coming from different racial and socioeconomic backgrounds, their shared grief led them to take on a corrupt system and demand justice for their sons. This conversation will explore their grief, resilience, activism, and the power of allyship while also shedding light on the realities of police violence, systemic cover-ups, and the emotional toll on families left behind.

Author website - https://www.susanberardi.com/

The Guardian article tells the story of the two sons' shootings and the mothers' friendship. Police killed their sons. Their unmovable friendship uncovered a system of lies | US policing | The Guardian