Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil joins me on the podcast this week as we talk about her powerful new book Becoming Brave: Finding the Courage to Pursue Racial Justice Now. Dr. McNeil says that reconciliation is not true reconciliation without justice! In the course of our conversation she tells parts of her own story and encourages us to move from passivity into action.

She does this through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther. As she walks us through the story of this fascinating character it becomes evident that we cannot remain silent but also need courage to step into the work of repairing broken systems so we can move toward reconciliation.