In Part Two of our conversation with Brett Shipp, we pick up with more of the unforgettable TV news stories that helped define his career—investigations that made an impact and moments that only happen when you’re chasing the truth day after day.

But then the conversation takes a turn. Brett opens up about a life- and career-changing decision—leaving the newsroom for a move into politics. It was a bold step, fueled by a desire to make change from the inside.

It didn’t end the way he hoped.

And yet, Brett tells us why he has no regrets about making the move, what he learned from it, and how that chapter shaped the person he is today.