In this episode of Brews & BizDev, Paul Greiner of Renoun Creative talks with Katie Kunde of DRNK Wines and Maker Media.

As Katie enjoys some of her own wine and Paul sips a Hayburner, they discuss

• the pro's and cons of family business,
• when to pivot, and when to stay the course,
• the importance of bringing humanity and kindness back to our brands--and how we interact with brands,
• and a lot more!

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